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Post by bowhunter836 on Apr 14, 2016 13:03:21 GMT -5
I won a benelli super nova chambered 3 1/2 with a steady grip! Looking for recommendations on a good choke for coyote hunting? Need a tight pattern out to 50-60yrds
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Post by schunter on Apr 14, 2016 13:37:11 GMT -5
I personally like Rhino or Kicks.... Rhino in my 870 and Kicks in my Benelli M2. Both have killed turkeys past 40 yds. and should perform well on yotes.
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Post by rojo23 on Apr 14, 2016 16:37:19 GMT -5
there is a guy close to me and he builds muzzleloader and also makes chokes. I have never bought any chokes from him, but a buddy of mine has, and said they are the best made. he has a website under ashland gun innovations
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Post by linebaugh on Apr 15, 2016 8:50:11 GMT -5
I wouldn't get too hung up on aftermarket choke tubes. I've spent a boatload of money and time trying to do exactly what you are trying to accomplish. My findings are, well, mostly inconclusive.
Probably the all time best factory load combo I ever had was 2 3/4" winchester T shot out of a 26" beretta 390 with a modified choke. That load would consistently shred a phone book at 50 yards and was a nightmare on coyotes. At the time all of my coyotes were shot out of a pickup by means of chasing them with a group of guys with CB radios. I killed about half my coyotes with a shotgun and the other half with a rifle.
Since then I have tried every size of shot from #2 to 00 buckshot and every tube I had plus several aftermarket tubes. The best patterns came from hand rolled #1 plated and buffered buckshot at about 1200fps and an improved modified choke out of an 18" over under 12ga.
Okay now for the disclaimer. That load shoots good but on occassion it does not pattern well for no apparent reason. Perhaps 70% pattern well and then 30% not worth a hoot. Same gun, same everything. In addition I have literally hammered coyotes with that load and it usually takes multiple shots to stop them. Very, very frustrating.
Okay so that brings me to a whole different plan of attack. Look up dixie gunworks tri-ball ammunition. The guy that runs that company is a wonderful fellow and those shells absolutely work. I have shot patterns you can cover with a dollar bill at 50 yards and I would bet you could kill coyotes at 100yards with that load perhaps 50+% of the time. In addition to the above about tri-ball you have the capacity to kill the occassional charging hippo with the same load. I'm not making that up, tri-ball is bad azz stuff.
I have not done this yet but I would be willing to bet the second best load after tri-ball would be #4 turkey loads with a choke that patterns tightly. Basically follow all the steps you would when patterning for turkey. I have pole axed a couple coyotes this way while turkey hunting and they dont even move.
After multiple hundreds of dollars spent on coyote load development I will leave you with these conclusions.
After about 1250fps patterns start opening up significantly.
Stack (the shot column) is very important in tight patterns with buckshot.
Roll crimps are for sure the best crimp for buckshot consistency.
Plated shot and buffer for sure help. Probably a 10+% gain in patterns.
Choke constriction is very important, choke manufacturer is least important. Too much choke is worse than too little choke.
Every s-gun is it's own puzzle.
Even the best loads hickuup on occassions throwing some junk patterns for no reason.
Hope that helps. I sure have wasted a ton of money trying to find that perfect load for coyotes and hope you have better luck than I have had.
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Post by 10gaauto on May 1, 2016 15:57:13 GMT -5
what linebaugh said X2! I hunt fur, predators and other undesirable varmits. As you might note I favor a #10 when money is on the line. Best I can say is every gun is different and having a consistent gun is most important. I favor guns with overbore barrels, examples are Browning Invector Plus and some of the Mossy offerings. Testing loads and chokes can be time consuming when you get into the area of diminishing returns. I have never shot a super nova and don't know anybody with one but will say that whichever patterns good in #4 buckshot up to BBB shot is the ticket. I have found that "turkey" type and X full shoot LEAD #4 buck and most anything else in LEAD shot real good. Larger buckshot or some of the "hard" shot offered is a different story and it seems a light full or improved modified does better with the hard and large buckshot. My favorite shotguns for predator and fur hunting are my Ithaca 10 automag and my Browning special field in 3" 12 gauge. I have a custom sized Carlsons choke in the #10 and a lite full Kicks Buck Kicker in the Browning. Also have a selection of 870s and they serve well and have a Rhino in 1 and another Kicks in another 870. Probably hasin't helped much but that is my $.02. 10ga PS for serious shooting I get my fur and predator ammo from "Nitro Ammo" in MO www.nitrocompany.com/index.html |
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Post by schunter on May 1, 2016 20:08:24 GMT -5
I have been shooting nitro company turkey loads for about 8 years now. Nothing compares but very pricey!
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Post by hillbill on May 2, 2016 3:52:06 GMT -5
I have spent lots of money on different shotguns/loads/chokes over the years and have had remington, winchester, Beretta, Benelli, Browning and lots of different brands of chokes. day in, day out for your needs I would bet on a Indian Creek choke and Winchester Longbeard #4s. turkey loads are bad news on Mr yote.
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Post by bowhunter836 on May 8, 2016 18:18:37 GMT -5
Well I went with the Indian creek choke and the Winchester #4 long beard 3 1/2 and im very impressed with the pattern at 50yards! Now that Michigan has opened the coyote season to year round I just need to get out and call a yote in to see if will knock one down at 50yards
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