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Jewell
Jan 21, 2020 17:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by cshields on Jan 21, 2020 17:20:04 GMT -5
Any pros or cons to the Jewell trigger in a smokeless?
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Post by hillbill on Jan 21, 2020 18:34:10 GMT -5
They are great bench rest triggers and that is what they are designed for, Lots of guys use them BUT If it's a gun that's going to see field use you might want to go another direction? I have one sitting on the shelf right now replaced by Trigger Tech, my reasoning? Jewell triggers don't like to get dirty, I had problems with mine and know others that have as well but keep in mind this is only one opinion, I know several guys that hunt with them and swear by them, so other opinions will likely vary.
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Jewell
Jan 21, 2020 21:12:38 GMT -5
Post by jims on Jan 21, 2020 21:12:38 GMT -5
I have one on a TarHunt shotgun. I really like it but then I have never hunted it in dirty, wet conditions.
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Post by buckeye68 on Jan 21, 2020 22:36:16 GMT -5
I own 5 of them. Never had an issue with them.
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Post by buckeye68 on Jan 21, 2020 22:39:36 GMT -5
They are great bench rest triggers and that is what they are designed for, Lots of guys use them BUT If it's a gun that's going to see field use you might want to go another direction? I have one sitting on the shelf right now replaced by Trigger Tech, my reasoning? Jewell triggers don't like to get dirty, I had problems with mine and know others that have as well but keep in mind this is only one opinion, I know several guys that hunt with them and swear by them, so other opinions will likely vary. Send it to me Bill and you’ll have a empty spot on your shelf for something new.
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Post by hillbill on Jan 22, 2020 4:39:14 GMT -5
Can be had for a small fee for sure!
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Jewell
Jan 22, 2020 6:41:16 GMT -5
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Post by Richard on Jan 22, 2020 6:41:16 GMT -5
They work great on my match rifles at 1.5 oz. But, my 7 oz Shilen is just fine on my MZ'ldr.
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Post by ultimtepredator on Jan 22, 2020 8:29:51 GMT -5
A good friend of mine had a jewel trigger ,while shooting the Kentucky challenge,went to close the bolt and prematurely went off due to assumptions of a piece a dirt as Hillbill mentioned earlier,luckily it hit his target... I believe it now sports a trigger tech... I also have one on one of my SML but use lighter fluid and air to clean it quite often with no failures
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Post by bkm on Jan 22, 2020 9:41:38 GMT -5
I had a buddy that owned a Jewel. He had some issues with it. Took it to a gunsmith and they couldn’t resolve the problem. He sent the trigger back to Jewel for repair(or replacement). Jewel returned it to him and said it was repaired. Same issue happened again. Once again he returned it and told them he didn’t want that trigger back. He wanted it replaced. He made some kind of mark on it so he would know if they sent him a new one or the same one back again. Unfortunately, Jewel returned the same trigger and a nice note that said it was fine. My buddy bought a Trigger Tech.
That said, I have Jewel triggers in all my rifles. I’ve never had a problem but was disappointed in the company.
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Jewell
Jan 22, 2020 11:45:01 GMT -5
Post by Richard on Jan 22, 2020 11:45:01 GMT -5
The latest one now is the Favio Italian roller bearing trigger being sold by Bruno Shooter supply at $395.00..........it adjusts from .7 to 1.5 oz.
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Jewell
Jan 22, 2020 13:08:08 GMT -5
Post by hillbill on Jan 22, 2020 13:08:08 GMT -5
Jewell has lost a large part of their market in the last couple of years to Trigger Tech and Bix & Andy, not throwing stones at all they are still good triggers.
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Jewell
Jan 22, 2020 14:40:12 GMT -5
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Post by bkm on Jan 22, 2020 14:40:12 GMT -5
Jewell has lost a large part of their market in the last couple of years to Trigger Tech and Bix & Andy, not throwing stones at all they are still good triggers. Competition is good. I haven’t seen the enclosed Bix & Andy but I believe Trigger Tech has eat into Jewels business. Jewel now has their own website and their triggers are cheaper than before😁
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Post by Hank on Jan 22, 2020 19:49:58 GMT -5
Jewell triggers is by far my preferred trigger of choice. They are IMO the top of the line.... The problem with them is they are built so precised that the least little bit of oil (what everyone is calling dirt) will stop the trigger from resetting, therefor causing the pin to drop when the bolt is closed. I will have to say most people want to oil their triggers,,,,,,, and that is the worst thing you can do. Do not let oil or cleaning solvents into the trigger group, as the oil dries out and gets gummy, not allowing the trigger to work correctly. Then it's the triggers fault and everyone wants to blame the manufacture instead of stepping back and looking for the real problem. A trigger set in the ounces can not be expected to reset the same as a trigger set at the 3-4 pound range. So don't expect more from something than it can give you. Triggers set in the ounces are intended for bench rest type of shooting, not cold, dirty hunting conditions....
Everyone should clean their triggers with red devil lighter fluid and air blast dry, then never, ever put oil on them....
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Jewell
Jan 22, 2020 21:15:14 GMT -5
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Post by smokelessk on Jan 22, 2020 21:15:14 GMT -5
I've always preferred Anschutz triggers, or the one on my Walther free rifle.
It's one of the reasons why I own a 17 HMR that was an $1,100 rifle. It is an Anschutz sporting rifle that has a two stage flat blade trigger that breaks at 8 ounces. Yup, I hunt with it. It's my go to small critter rifle. Their actual competition triggers are considerably lighter, around the one ounce range. Absolutely superb triggers.
The trigger on my Walther is set so light that once you chamber a round you can not lift the bolt at all or the firing pin will drop and fire the round. The only way to extract a live round is to put the safety on before lifting the bolt. Oil a trigger like that? No way! It has to be run dry and clean. Would I ever put an Anschutz on a SML? Nope. Not my SML anyway.
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Post by schunter on Jan 23, 2020 11:32:45 GMT -5
I have had no issues with either of my Jewell triggers. I also have two Trigger Techs a special and a primary which so far I really like.
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Jewell
Jan 23, 2020 13:32:09 GMT -5
Post by encore50a on Jan 23, 2020 13:32:09 GMT -5
I put a Jewell on a BP Xpress and just loved it. When my UF was converted its still on the action. I never oiled it, only used lighter fluid and air. Its worked flawlessly. Its set at 11oz, but I do increase it to 1.5# for hunting. I've considered trying another trigger but, doing lots of research and reading about triggers, especially over travel, I'm not so sure I want a trigger without over travel. It appears that there's about a 5 to 1 FOR over travel. Any comments
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Jewell
Jan 23, 2020 15:27:00 GMT -5
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Post by bkm on Jan 23, 2020 15:27:00 GMT -5
I put a Jewell on a BP Xpress and just loved it. When my UF was converted its still on the action. I never oiled it, only used lighter fluid and air. Its worked flawlessly. Its set at 11oz, but I do increase it to 1.5# for hunting. I've considered trying another trigger but, doing lots of research and reading about triggers, especially over travel, I'm not so sure I want a trigger without over travel. It appears that there's about a 5 to 1 FOR over travel. Any comments Yep same here. I like the Jewel.
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Post by Hank on Jan 29, 2020 10:00:32 GMT -5
I received an action from a customer that needed the bolt handle times, so I started working on it the other day and when I removed the Jewell trigger, I found this. Look at the oil and dirt build up around the hanger pin area and where the trigger body meets the action. If there is this much oil and dirt in this location, then there is just as much inside the trigger where the working pieces must be free to move. This amount of oil would clog up the kitchen sink, yet people want to blame the trigger maker for making bad triggers. It would not matter what brand of trigger you have in your gun, if you soak them with oil, the oil will collect dirt, and the oil dries out and turns to gum..... This is why triggers stop working and have slam fires or go off when you release the safety. One more thing to consider when you hear about more Jewell failures than from any other brand...... There is probable 1000 Jewell triggers out there to every 1 of the competitors trigger. So, keep that in mind.
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Post by billyboy on Jan 29, 2020 19:48:23 GMT -5
I received an action from a customer that needed the bolt handle times, so I started working on it the other day and when I removed the Jewell trigger, I found this. Look at the oil and dirt build up around the hanger pin area and where the trigger body meets the action. If there is this much oil and dirt in this location, then there is just as much inside the trigger where the working pieces must be free to move. This amount of oil would clog up the kitchen sink, yet people want to blame the trigger maker for making bad triggers. It would not matter what brand of trigger you have in your gun, if you soak them with oil, the oil will collect dirt, and the oil dries out and turns to gum..... This is why triggers stop working and have slam fires or go off when you release the safety. One more thing to consider when you hear about more Jewell failures than from any other brand...... There is probable 1000 Jewell triggers out there to every 1 of the competitors trigger. So, keep that in mind. Perfect Example why you should use a Quality Bore Cleaning Guide & Flush these triggers with Lighter Fluid.
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